IBS Interview Podcast: Clara Lyons-DeVaughn

May 5, 2024
Black Summit Interviews
Season 2, Episode #6 - Clara Lyons-DeVaughn

This month, Glenn Greenidge and Grace Lawrence interview CLARA LYONS-DEVAUGHN:  

Clara Lyons-DeVaughn is the broker/owner of Lyonsview Realty, a full-service brokerage providing residential, commercial for small businesses and non-profits, and property management services.  Clara is a short sales specialist and holds the CDPE - Certified Distressed Property Expert designation.

Clara has been a real estate professional since 1996.  She moved to New Jersey in 2005, and signed on with Weichert Realtors in 2006. She purchased and sold real estate on both coasts and was bi-coastal for almost 3 years before settling in and focusing her attention in New Jersey. Clara opened Lyonsview Realty in May 2016, the first arm of the Lyonsview brand. The brand includes Lyonsview Academy, the education arm; Lyonsview Lifestyles, the health and wellness arm; and Lyonsview Management solutions, the contract and consulting arm.

Clara joined the Facilitator Body of the International Black Summit (IBS) shortly after attending her first Annual Summit Event in Oakland California in 1993. She participated as the Finance Coordinator for several years, was one of the co-founders and original hosts of the IBS Blog Talk radio show; and met her husband Edwin “Blacklov” DeVaughn at the Philadelphia summit.

Clara served as President of the Southern New Jersey Chapter of the National Association of Real Estate Brokers (SJNAREB) from 2014 – 2019, was Regional Vice President for Region 2 in 2022, and currently serves as the SJNAREB Board chair (2020 - present). Clara also served as the Director of the Victorious Business Professionals Ministry at Victory in Christ Christian Center from 2013 - 2022. 

Clara received her Master of Science and undergraduate degrees from the University of Southern California and prior to entering the field of real estate full time, was a financial and management analyst at the local, state and federal levels.  Clara is an avid international traveler.

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The views and opinions expressed by the person interviewed are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the International Black Summit.

Transcript

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Hi everyone, welcome to the International Black Summit Interview Podcast. For those of you who aren't familiar with us, the International Black Summit is an organization that was created in 1991.

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And our purpose is to provide an opportunity for our participants to bring in to be their vision for the black community and the world.

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So thanks for being with us tonight. In this interview podcast, we interview current or past facilitators of the summit or participants of the summit to find out how they have used the International Black Summit's tools.

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Distinctions and experiences in their lives, in their communities, in their families and in their visions for the world.

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Tonight we are interviewing Clara Lyons Devon, somebody that Glenn and I have both known for a number of years.

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She was a facilitator, an active facilitator of the International Black Summit has held a number of different positions with the International Black Summit and has an interesting background.

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So before we have her join us, I'm just going to read her biography here. So let me just read it to you.

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So Clara Lyons Devon is the broker owner of Lines View Realty, a full-service brokerage providing residential, commercial, real estate for small businesses and nonprofits and property management services.

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Clara has been a real estate professional since, 1,996 and started her career in California with Prudential Real Estate and later session real estate.

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She moved to New Jersey in 2,005. Secured her New Jersey license and signed on with Whitecurt Realtors in 2,006.

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She purchased and sold real estate in both states and was by coastal for almost 3 years. Before settling in and focusing her attention in New Jersey.

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At Wykert she was a mentor to new agents and secured her brokers license in 2,012.

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She left Whitecourt in 2,013 to become broker of record at Next start and EX TRE, New Jersey responsible for agents in South, Central and Northern, New Jersey.

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Clara is a short sales specialist. And holds the CDPE certified distressed property expert designation.

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Clara opened lines with Realty in May, 2016. The 1st arm of the lions view brand.

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The brand includes lines of academy, the education arm. Lions view lifestyles, the health and wellness arm, and Lions view management solutions, the contract and consulting arm.

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Clara received her Master of Science and Undergraduate degrees from the University of Southern California. And prior to entering the field of real estate full-time was a financial and management analyst at the local, state, and federal levels.

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Claire is an ad that travel in Traveler and has been to several countries on the continent of Africa.

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Also to Brazil, to Canada to Mexico to Europe the Caribbean islands and to numerous US states Clara joined the facilitator body of the International Black Summit shortly after attending her 1st summit event in Oakland, California in 1,993.

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She participated as the finance coordinator for several years was one of the co-founders and original hosts of the International Black Summit Blog Talk Radio Show.

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And met her husband, Edwin, Black Love, Devon at the Philadelphia Summit. Clara served as the director of the victorious business professionals ministry at victory in Christian in Christ Christian Center from 2,013 to 2,022.

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In this role, she was responsible for the development and execution of programs for entrepreneurs and business professionals at the church.

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Clara started her New Jersey and a REB service. As the SJ and ARE EB membership chair.

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That being the southern New Jersey. Chapter of the national association of real estate brokers. Worked on the Interfaith Housing Institute initiative with Kara before coming to New Jersey.

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She has served as the New Jersey State President of that organization and currently serves as their board chair. She was also the reasonable, regional vice president for that organization in 2022 and president of the southern New Jersey chapter from 2,014 to 2,019.

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So welcome, welcome, welcome, Clara. Oh, that's a lot in your background there.

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Go ahead and start.

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So long for me to cover, a lot you have done in your life, my girl. Welcome, welcome.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm so happy to be here. Great to see you all.

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Okay.

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There you go, here you are with us. Yeah.

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There you go. Oh, I love the look and blog talk radio. Hey! My goodness

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That was like the precursor to the, the, the weekly events that we have the Sunday Summit shares, I believe.

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That's great.

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That is correct, sweet. We did that every Sunday night interviewing and bringing up topics of concern but Let's get right back to you, Clara.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So. What was the first? st interaction the 1st you know what got you to the summon what what what brought you to this international black summit?

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Wow, there were A couple of things. So I have my first.st So each year actually in 1,993 in Oakland, California.

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And at that time, which is not in my bio, I was doing acting above things.

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Oh wow.

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Yeah, and I was doing a lot of projects at the Open Ensemble Theater. And I saw.

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A flyer there for summer share. And then I got another one from Kathy Andrews who gave me.

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A flyer for the summit shares and Susan Shelton invited me to the summit share. So I was like, what's this?

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You know, international black summit thing, right? And. The and it wasn't just a fire like on the flyer was the declaration.

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Of the International Black Summit. And I was so moved and drawn to it. I was like this something that I really really want to check out and if I could, I'd like to.

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To share the declaration because I think it's very powerful. If that's okay with you guys.

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I think that's great. We should be able to pick bring that up on screen. Glenn, do you have that?

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Or I can share it.

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I do, I do, I do.

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So it's the declaration of the International Black Senate. We declare ourselves our community. And all communities.

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Hold and complete. There is nothing to do except be. We assert that we are responsible for generating community.

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As possibility and distinction. We listen for and grant being to the possibility. And creation of unpredictable results.

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Our conversation of. About and for those of African descent. Is one of power. Self-generation.

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Abundance, responsibility. Unity and integrity. With the possibility of being. We stand for the expression of our spirituality.

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Ending the murders of our men. Our women and our children. Building economies responsible for funding our community.

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Maintaining wellness of being in our bodies. Providing human services. Establishing nurturing relationships. Altering the conversation of who we are in the media.

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Empowering our youth. We declare that our community manifests itself in the world. As a contribution in the transformation of the universe.

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Atlanta, Georgia, October 7.th 1991. And that blew me away.

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Like. It spoke to so many things that are important to me. And you know, I'm a person of spirituality.

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I'm a person of unity. I'm about establishing things that are nurturing.

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I'm totally about changing the conversation of who we are in the media and the conversation of who we talk about ourselves with each other.

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So it was just. When I saw the declaration, I'm like, I have to go and check this thing out.

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And so it was in. What was it? 1998 actually, when I went to Atlanta for my 1st summit and then I didn't make the ones that were out of the country, but I think the next one that was in state was in 2,000 in Philadelphia where I met my husband Edwin Black Live to Von and we got married in 2,001.

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A year later, which that's a whole nother story. And we had a 12 year run of not missing a summit until he passed.

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In 2,012. And we had just come back from the Birmingham Alabama Summit.

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And then we had gone to his family. Reunion in Virginia. And then. All hit broke loose.

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With his transition, it really kind of sent me into a tailspin. So I went into a hiatus for a while.

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But got back in 2015 in Atlanta. Ferguson and 2016 DC it meant Detroit.

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But one of the things I just wanna thank the summit family because it's summit family showed up.

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At Edwin's funeral. And we also had the declaration shared, at that occasion and and when I Think about the summit.

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I just think about family because it really expanded my family to an international family because people came from Canada, people came.

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From Africa, from Jamaica, from all over the United States. To be with us in that moment.

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I just want to say I love you guys and I appreciate you. For that and one of the things that

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It's really pressing and the energy of the summit that continues to draw me is just that sense of community in that sense of family and that sense of.

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Total engagement and belonging. That is generated in the summit events and outside of the summit events.

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So yeah, I know that's a long answer to a short question, but I think the energy of the summit is very powerful.

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And the energy of the declaration. Yeah.

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You know, that was a long and for me, engaging answer to that 1st question because there were things in that answer that I didn't know about you.

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I know, right?

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And that I would never have guessed. That you were acting at that time? I had no idea, you know, it's interesting how how we can get to know each other through the International Black Summit or anywhere in life and as human beings we all have You know, we all have layers and layers.

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Yeah.

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And so just thank you for sharing another layer of who you are with us tonight. I appreciate that.

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Oh.

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Okay.

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Yes, I've been acting since. Wow. I want to say junior high school. Yeah, yeah, I was in a group called the Black Actors Company.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And.

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So you were an actor. You were in finance. You were you've been in real estate I mean, just picking all of these different aspects.

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Good.

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Of who you are. That's great. So, you know, one of the reasons why we decided to do the podcast was really to just engage with.

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Current and past facilitators and participants in the international black summit just to get a sense of how people have used the summit distinctions.

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Hmm.

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And the summit tools over the years in their lives, you know, in their families, in their communities.

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You know, I know how I have used those tools and distinctions to, create my life in a way that really has been empowering for me.

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And so I'm just always interested to hear. How has the, how has being a part of the summit and learning these tools?

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Shifted you and shifted your life.

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So a couple of things, one I've always had a worldview. Right. At a very young age.

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I think And I like, I don't even remember how that was, so. I had to be maybe around 6 or 7 somewhere around there and my dad asked me what.

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I had a choice for my birthday. I could go to Fairyland or I could go on a plane ride.

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And I said, I can go to Fairyland anytime. I want to go on the plane right.

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Yeah.

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And so went up in this plane and I got a chance to see. You know, the city. You know, and they, it was just all these grids, you know, the houses, everything got smaller.

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The higher up you would go and things, it was just a whole nother perspective and I got hooked on traveling.

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Like there's something more than what you know. There's something else out there, right? There's something else out there in the world and I started traveling, went to Europe.

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Which coup?

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With a friend one of my sorority sisters and we did all of the capitals of Europe and so then you know to different places I went to Africa in the middle of the coup and so The thing about The one in Nigeria.

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Yeah, in Nigeria, I think that was in 1981 somewhere around there, 81 82.

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Yeah, yeah. And they had held up my visa because the coup was going on. But I did get there eventually and, my friends couldn't come into the airport to get me.

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So. I had angels. I mean, this guy just came out of nowhere and just stood behind me.

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Well, I'm standing in line and I took my niece with me. She was 16 at the time.

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And,

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Oh nice.

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They just, yeah, they didn't mess with us. And then when we got to the luggage, another guy came up.

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He's like, I will help you, you know, with your and he stayed with me until I got with my friend and of course he wanted my friend to pay him.

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Which was fine and then you know. We went on about our business, but everywhere we went, we went in groups.

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Because they had Michele, what do you call those AK 47 machine guns? You know, they would stop you all the time on the road.

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So it was an interesting experience, but the the thing that called to me about the summit was it it had the title international in it.

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So it was a perspective that is a world perspective and I think a lot of times People are so confined to.

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Themselves, their neighborhood and their immediate community that the relationship to a larger society is lost. Right.

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They don't get the connection that. We have a whole world, there's a whole world out there.

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And we have relationship with that world. So I really like the term international. From that perspective. And then the other part.

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Is the family aspect. So once I got into the summit, just the immediate kinship that I felt with people in the connection that I felt with people that still exist.

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And I know I haven't seen you all in ages, but it's just like. You know, we talked yesterday.

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I still feel like. You know, wherever I go. In the world. I know people who will embrace me and who will take care of me.

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Right, that I'm covered, you know, through, this family that is the International Black Summit.

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And then the other way that is impacted me, the thing that I picked up were the distinctions.

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Hmm.

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So there are so many talk about layers. Thanks. There are so many distinctions in. The summit and I think it gives you at least it gave me an opportunity.

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To look at the world through a different set of lens, you know, to Really stop and think sometimes what is actually going on and how my viewing it And I think probably my favorite, one of my favorite distinctions is no out there, right?

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Like everything begins right here with me and how I see the world. So we can all be in the exact same room doing the exact same thing.

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And our perspective of but how we feel about it or how we engage with it. Is real from the perspective of what we think about it and how we see it, you know, so I can't see it for Glenn or for Grace or for anybody else, I can only see it for myself.

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And I also have to understand that everybody else's perspective is going to be different. You know, even though we're all in the same room experiencing the same thing.

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So what that did was it gave me a lot of grace with people. You know, to really. And 2 to understand.

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That their perspective and their worldview might be different than mine. And that's okay. Like there's the capability to hold it all.

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You know, there's the capability to hold it all and I think in one of the summits we were in a but conversation and people kept saying but but I'm like no it's and Doesn't have to be but but this but that is and like because all of it is true it's and and and this and that and this and that's all of it and we hold all of it.

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In our interactions with with people at least

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Is that the conversation? Sorry to cut you off, Clara. Is that the conversation where the where the DJ facilitator the music facilitator started playing Do in the butt.

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Do in the but

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Yes, yeah

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I'm definitely thrilly.

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During the conversation, the but but conversation.

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Yes. Okay. Yes. And it's funny because music is another distinction at the summit, like everything has value, you know, everything.

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Lens is stuff to understand, of who we are and why we do what we do and how we do what we do.

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Thank you. I really do love the summit. Yeah. And I think.

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For me with my clients. It really gives me perspective. Yeah, it really gives me perspective.

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I have this thing where I say, you know, everything. Is in its right place at its right time, right?

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And, and we call that in the summit alignment. And a lot of times people get so bent out of shape because things are not going a particular way or.

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You know, they want it this particular thing and it's not for them at this time. And I'm like the thing that's for you is there.

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It's their waiting. And when everything lines up.

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It'll be the right thing. At the right time. For the right person. You know, so there's nothing that anyone can take from you because what God has for you is for you.

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Like, you know, and then we have this capability also of creation. So the thing about the declaration that's so powerful you know, our words, you know, what we're speaking, what we're declaring, what we're sharing with people, our visions, our dreams.

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Are all part of that declaration and our speaking. And that we can generate, that's my other favorite distinction, self-generation, we can generate our lives.

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You know, we can generate our lives by really getting clear about. What our purpose is, what our vision is, what we want for ourselves, what we want for our lives, and we can declare that thing and it will show up.

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It will show up. So, yeah. Yeah, the summit is. I would say it's been an integral part of who I am as a person, how I do business.

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How I interact with people. How I interact in my relationships. And I don't think there is a day that goes by that I don't say some.

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Distinction or share a distinction with the people that I interact with. Like daily.

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Well, you know, Clara, you've got, in your bi, you talk about this business that you've created for yourself.

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I mean, it's It's and it's not just a business. But I mean, the different layers of it, the wellness, the real estate, the educational pieces.

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What is your what's your overall vision? What is it? That you're out to create.

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In the world.

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Thank you for asking that I was thinking the same thing, Glen. What is your vision, Claire?

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My vision is that my dreams and the dreams of others are actualized into reality. You know that I'm a conduit.

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And.

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I'm a conduit for that to happen. Yeah, from my dreams and the dreams of others to be actualized into reality.

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And so whether it's helping someone. Purchase the home that they've been dreaming of, whether it's assisting people with their health through.

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Plant based education in mules and diets, whether it's Just having a conversation with somebody about what they want to do, a young person or an older person.

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About what they want to do in life and what my experience, how I can, you know. Lighten their load by sharing that experience with them to help them go farther or helping to get where they want to go.

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It's part of that, you know. It's the podcast that I do every Friday where You know, it's to give people tools, information and tips, resources to help them be more financially fit, whether that's, you know.

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Intellectual wealth or financial wealth. And right now we're doing author series, so I'm interviewing authors.

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It's all of those things to really help people see that everything that you need is available, right?

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And if I can be a conduit to help you get to where you want to go. Then that's my purpose, right?

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That's my purpose in life. That's my vision. Yeah.

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Thank you.

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That is a beautiful. Vision. Like I'm very like beautiful vision and I really hear aspects of the distinction of the declaration rather.

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You know, like I hear the, you know, looking at the declaration. Glenn, can we bring up the declaration again just briefly?

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Absolutely.

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Hmm.

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Thank you. Just looking at that the paragraph in the declaration that starts with we stand. And looking at your bio.

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And listening to what you just shared. And looking at this paragraph we stand. So we stand for the expression of our spirituality and I see in your bio the work that you've done with your Christian community and your church.

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And the way that you support there. And building economies responsible for funding our community. And and the the podcast that you're doing to really help people with their financial growth and financial literacy.

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Maintaining wellness of being in our bodies and the aspect of your of your business, the lines of business that's around health and wellness.

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You know all of these things there's another aspect here that the real estate falls in there too right Just really looking at and other aspects that I'm probably not even touching on So.

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So what do you see? Since we're here in the declaration that most calls to you or that you feel is is most connected to the vision you just shared with us.

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The building economy is responsible for funding our community and maintaining wellness of being in our bodies like.

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Those things. Really call to me because.

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You mentioned, when I was the director of the Victoria's Business Professional. So.

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There are a lot of entrepreneurs at our church. And so I did a lot of programming for them.

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Not only for the entrepreneurs, but the people who were. Working for other people as well, just workshops to help empower them to.

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To go higher in their jobs and or do things to support them in their businesses. And. In that ministry.

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I think I was the 1st ministry at our church to be self funding. Because I believe that everything should pay for itself.

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Right, like God gives us the resources to be self-sufficient. You know, we can plant in the ground.

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And have food come up and we can eat. Right, it's you put this in.

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Right, we can probably stop sharing now, Glenn. Thanks.

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You put you put the seat in and it and it comes back up, you know, food comes up so you could have a community garden.

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You know, and share that with in the community so people can eat, right? You can't, I, I got a, an email today.

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Where the young sores were trying to go to. An event that's happening. In Honolulu, Hawaii.

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And my 1st thought that came up is. Where the event is coming up like in 30 days or something.

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It's like, why didn't they start on this sooner? Like what would have been a way for them to?

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Fund their participation. If this is something that you want. There's a way that you can achieve anything that you want and get the resources or generate the income to do what it is you want to do.

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Like everything is there. There's no reason. That anybody should be in lack, you know, who has.

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A mind and a creativity and the willingness and the desire. To make things. Happen to make things work.

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Hmm.

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So it's no, I guess it's no mistake that I ended up as a finance coordinator.

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That's right.

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So I don't, I don't know if you remember this. When we were in Brazil.

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Do you remember when we went to the bank?

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For that

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Yes. Yes, yes. One night. And the fruit bats were out, right?

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Remember that?

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Yes. Oh my god, it was hilarious. We had Glenn, Glenn was Glenn with my security.

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Okay.

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Hmm.

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We had all of the money we had collected for the summit in Brazil. And they were what? Over 300 people there.

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Yeah.

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It was 3 to 500 people. It was a lot of money. So we're on our way to the bank in Brazil and we were walking at some point.

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I don't know what are we walking? But it was it was just the most hilarious thing that I found.

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I'm like, they could just knock us and they don't know how much money we had.

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Like it was just crazy. It was crazy, but I'll never forget that experience.

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Well, you know, that's 1 of the things that I wanted folks to really include because Yes, you are definitely about business, but you're about fun as well.

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Okay.

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I mean, we've had some really great times together I'm, reminded of the event that you had.

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Okay.

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For black history that we came a few of us came to visit your event and to support you in your event and was this phenomenal author and she had merchants that were there that were selling all kinds of African items and you know clothing and and and the necklaces and different thing you know jewelry.

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And and so on and so forth. It really speaks to the livelihood that you are your You know, you're about business, but you're also about fun, having fun and enjoying life.

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10 min.

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The thing that comes up in the declaration for me nurturing relationships So, cause I There wasn't a moment that I didn't feel nurtured around you.

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Yeah, so that you know that you know that's also part of what I wanted to let folks know about You want to talk a little bit about blog talk radio and that experience because cause it's interesting because that actually connects to the whole acting thing which which I didn't put together till tonight.

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Okay, good.

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Wow, well I want to go back to the Black History Social for me, cause I, you know what I've done so many things I forget about it.

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Yes. Yes.

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I'm getting older. But the Black History Social was just that. It was it was, I had gotten tired of going to, on Martin Luther King Day, the I have a dream speeches, which is, you know, No shade, but.

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You know, people go, they hear the speech, you know, somebody recites something and then it's over.

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So I wanted something that was interactive that was fun and that was also a way for I wanted people if they knew absolutely nothing about Black history by the time that they left they would know some things.

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So myself and 2 of my others sisters and one gentleman. George, Stondelay and Trina, we all got together and we created.

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Of these games. You know, and we use like Jeopardy, we did name that tune.

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We did concentration and we handmade all of these games, right? We did the big boards like the size of the wall.

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At Jackland Square, we did. Something called African connection. And the purpose of African connection was for people to learn the continents.

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Excuse me, the countries in the continent of Africa. And so you can you got a country and you had to find your neighboring countries.

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Great idea.

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So people were going around. Trying to find their person, you know who's next to them and then when you found and you had to connect to them You had to hold on So at the end, like everybody's all entwined and tangled like Twister.

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Okay.

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It, it was a lot of, it was a lot of fun. So thank you for bringing that up because I have forgotten about that.

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And that was one of the ways that I got connected when I 1st came to New Jersey too with the community here because I didn't see no black people in Cherry Hill.

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Yeah.

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So I was like, where are the black people in? This one lady that I met at the library, Tanya Norwood, introduced me to the church that I go to now.

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She came up and spoke to me. And the Cheerhill Library was where I had the 1st Black History Social in, New Jersey.

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Yeah. So yeah, thank you. Yeah, I do like to have fun. I do like to have a good time.

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Okay.

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And I am about nurturing, nurturing people, I think. Most of the time I'm a pretty good listener.

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Yeah. Yeah. So block talk radio. Wow.

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I am a creative spirit, so I think that's the the backdrop of I creative side, you know, the acting side, the creative side.

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And Block Talk Radio, John Thomas, bless her heart and may she rest in heaven.

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I miss her. And it was me, her Henrietta. In Cheshire.

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And Jerry.

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Glenn. Wow. Jerry, oh god, I can't leave well, Jerry.

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That's right. Yes. MVP!

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Don't be free, yes. Yeah, we had a good time.

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So what was the what was the? Yeah, what was the vision or the purpose of the blog talk radio, the summit blog talk radio when it was?

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A thing.

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Do you? Was to bring the conversation of the summit. To the people. You know, to the public.

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Right, because we were feeling like. We it was it was our it was our personal.

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We were keeping the summit to ourselves. Right, so we had this really intricate family and we really wanted to get.

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The summit conversation out in the world in a different way. And we talked about. We talked about a little everything, Gland.

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Everything, everything. Oh my goodness.

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We talked about It's the summit, the distinctions, gardening. Jerry always talked about black men and black power.

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Yeah, consonant New Yorker. We talked about what was going on in the world, different topics.

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Yeah, we talked about. Go, Glenn. Yeah, we talk about everything.

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We talked about anything and I want to point to, Jerry. Who at the time was was not connected, you know, it kind of came in.

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Hey, the list there.

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And started facilitating with us. He wasn't a, it wasn't a trained facilitator, he trained himself, he just was happy to Yeah, yeah, he was a listener, but he was there every week and so we invited him to be part of it.

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And and he just you know he just loved the conversation and still lives in the conversation. By the way, he has now got his own show.

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Okay. Yeah.

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That he's doing, you know, so I mean, all of that has kind of come out of his.

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For his feeling comfortable enough to facilitate with us who were facilitators, which leads me to the next question.

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What was it like being a facilitator for the International Black Summit?

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Wow.

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And why did you decide to become to be to be trained as a facilitator?

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I think I've always been a facilitator. And I stepped into facilitation and International Black Summit.

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From the very first, st my very 1st summit. So you know how we get put into groups, small groups.

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And I, leadership has always been on my back. And, or not, I'm actually an introvert.

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People don't believe that, but I am. I find myself in front of people a lot and I can be a leader.

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But I really enjoy being behind the scenes and doing things behind the scenes. I like systems and and things working efficiently.

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And so that's how that's my level of facilitation. But, you know, I got to, you know, I got picked to speak for the group, you know, and I was like, oh god, so I'm facilitating the conversation in group.

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And, and what Glenn pointed to the part about being nurturing. I think a really big part of facilitation is being nurturing.

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You know that nurturing spirit in me is one of facilitation. It's facilitating.

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That everybody is taking care of. You know, I have a spirit to make sure that everybody is okay.

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I did a trip for, for my best friend and a group of friends. And you know I planned the trip made sure that everybody had everything that they need we had a place to stay we had food we had transportation like everything's taken care of you know I plan trips I probably could be an event coordinator right I did the best, you know, on the bus I made sure we had food, you know, we

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had beverages, we had, we had, we had interaction on the bus going down. You know, we got things that would engage people in connect people to one another.

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A lot of times people don't talk to people. They don't know. So I'd like to make it easy for people to connect to one another.

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So it's that's just part of my nature to take care of people and to make sure that people take care.

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When we did the business expo at my church. You know, we all the vendors were there, but I made sure that the vendors had food, you know, that they had food, cause they were out there all day food and water, that there were runners to make sure that the vendors were taking care of that.

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They had everything that they needed because they're serving the people who are coming to see them. So it's just my nurturing nature.

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Yeah, so that that's a part. But so the declaration really speaks to me in a lot of ways.

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It does. Yeah.

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I just want to say a little bit about facilitation for anybody who's listening to get a sense of what we mean by facilitation in the summit because there's different types of facilitation that we engage in.

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You know, I already talked a little bit earlier about the music facilitator at the annual summit event that there's somebody.

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Shout out to Conrad.

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Yeah, you know, so there's somebody who is facilitating the music, engaging the music, and we use music as part of the conversation.

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I mean, this is an, this is, this is the International Black Summit. There is music there.

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And, and so there's that there's, there's facilitating the actual conversation that's happening in the room in our events and so being either up at the front of the room, several facilitators engaging and facilitating the conversation at the back of the room facilitating and engaging the conversation.

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Yes.

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And you talked a lot, Clara, about facilitating the space. Like facilitating the actual physical space and the production of this of the space and ensuring that the people in the space are taken care of so that they can focus.

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On the conversation and not be distracted by. You know, by things that are that could be, you know, distracting in the space.

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So just yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and also did the prerequisite for a while. So I never had desire to be in front of the room.

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And I hats off because The facilitators at the front of the room are genius. There is something about being able to allow people to be totally who they are to be totally transparent.

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To talk about. Whatever it is they're talking about. Cause you know what goes on in the stomach states in the summit.

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But, and to.

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To extract from that. Distinctions that allow people to get their life. Is genius to me. Is really, really genius to me.

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And so my hats off to the facilitators and in all of the spaces because I think everything, all of it is important.

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Okay. Yeah.

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There's that and again. You know, and the music facilitation and the back of the room facilitation and the space and the, non tangible things, you know, the systems, you know.

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Yeah.

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How things registration did that for a while just making sure that everything is taken care of all of the ands.

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And and it leads to how we facilitate our love. Guys, you know, we take that into business.

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We take that in a day to day with our families, you know, we take that into how We operate and manage ourselves.

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So facilitation is. A very necessary thing, but I think one of the things that's powerful about being a facilitator in the International Black Summit is that you learn to be conscious about your facilitation.

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You know, you really learn to.

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Yeah. And conscious about your life.

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Absolutely.

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Hmm, say that, yes. Yeah, very much so. Very much so. Yeah, it's a very powerful space.

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And it, grew me in so many ways, in terms of, you know, Who I am.

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I, it's, it's invaluable. I just, I love the same. I can't.

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Do, do you have any?

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Can't say that. And.

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Yeah, Let me just underline a little bit about the facilitation. So. Here at the International Black Summit.

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We'd listen the space. We'd listen. Powerfully. And so we use the time together to really get to the underlining pieces of What is stopping you?

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What is what is? Holding you back or what blindsiding you. And not allowing you to move forward because all of the distinctions and all of the things that we do.

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Are about you being present to your life being responsible and being able to move forward powerfully. Without, being held back.

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And, and so we've got different venues for that. So we've got the prerequisite, which is a 1 day program.

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We have the annual summit event, which is a 3 day. Reacts you start that Thursday we have a prerequisite on that Thursday and then we have an opening.

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Wherever the whole city is that night and then we have a full day Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. We also have the summit shares that you're in in attendance to on Sunday nights.

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We have the podcast series that we've been doing. We also have the care team. And we also, once you've

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Pair team being the community and regional events. Team. Yeah.

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Thank you. Yeah, thank you. And also, we also have a leadership body. That meets in fact Clara hosted one of those events in New Jersey which is where we meet in between the annual event.

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We plan out what there is to do and and clearer invited us to this one of the houses that she owned.

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And we were able to Be there and and had a retreat in the middle of New Jersey. For an entire weekend just fellow shipping and working together and loving up each other just you know Cooking together just having a whole bunch of fun and and so that's Those are some of the events.

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And and the kind of facilitation that takes place inside of the International Black Summit. Go ahead, yeah.

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20.

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Yeah, I'm just curious, Claire, you talked about facilitating the prerequisite.

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Hmm.

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So I have 2 questions. I have 2 questions going through my mind. One is asking you about facilitating the prerequisite.

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The other and the other. Let's start with the second question. Which is, are there any?

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Examples from your life of facilitating a specific event circumstance incident in your life using what you've learned and the tools that you have through the international Black Summit.

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Something that you facilitated in your life or in your community or in your family. Your business. And a specific example of how you facilitated that.

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Using the summit distinctions or tools.

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Hmm, okay. So. I'll use a very personal one.

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So one of one of the distinctions is trigger.

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Right. And trigger. Is.

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Which we use in a very specific way.

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Yes, it's It's it's it's something that you are unwilling or unconscious to be with about yourself, right?

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And. I had heard the term ghost.

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Right? But I'd never been ghosted until. I've been ghosted.

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And I was like.

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Okay. Yes.

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I think most did, right? This never happened to me before. And so I was triggered and I was I was trying to get to.

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What what was it about the experience that was. Causing this upset within me. So went to my creative side and I'm gonna share this poem with you guys.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And it's called access denied. Okay. Okay. Didn't realize that you were a locksmith.

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Secretly turning the tumblers of the lock on my inner emotions. Lock picks. Didn't realize the door open to a deeper place.

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A pass fueled with hurt. Insecurity and lack of trust. The mirror of you, your actions, your movements.

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The key to a dark place inside me kept locked down, now exposed. Alarms going off, blaring, pushing me to emotions of panic and anxiety.

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At first, st not understanding the source. Under further inspection, though. Realizing my safe was broken. The safe that protected my broken place.

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The place filled with memories wanting to be forgotten. 1st hurt, then anger. Then gratefulness for the exposure.

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Exposures of memories wanting to be forgotten. Memories wanting to be healed. To be transformed from their ugly broken place.

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Memories taking up space. Memories needing to be replaced with true love. Love of self, love of me.

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Now that I realized that you were that key. To that dark part of me. Until I heal that which was buried and forgotten.

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Until I transform. And get to my whole self. No key, longer able to be turned. No more memories wanting to be forgotten.

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Only memories transformed and healed. No longer under lie. For you or any key. Thanks for setting off the alarm.

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Anne.

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Until further notice, access is denied.

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That is, absolutely.

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Yeah. Oh my goodness, that's great. Applause! Or snaps, rather, snaps, it's poetry.

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Yes, so what I, you know, so like with triggers about. Really getting to see what it is that.

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It's giving you access to, you know, what place in yourself. And then once she gets there, what do you need to do to transform that space?

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So that it doesn't hurt anymore. You know, so it doesn't hurt anymore. So even if it's exposed.

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And that's why testimonies are great. Right? Cause you go through these tests. And then you know you're healed when you can talk about it when you can share it and it doesn't hurt anymore.

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It doesn't have any herd. It doesn't have the trigger. Like you can be with it.

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You can talk about it. And you've gotten past, you've gotten past it and that's.

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That's the transforming nature of the conversation. The summit and I would not have been able to get to that place of transformation.

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First, st realizing, what is it about this that's nagging me?

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And then able to see, you know, to look inside to say, hey, this is, this is what's bothering me.

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And this is why it's bothering me. And oh, okay. I know I need to do some work in that particular area.

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So I can, you know. Yeah, so it's really. A great.

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Place of self expiration. And then on the on the other side of it is

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I think in working with with people.

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It's always good to just be able to. Okay. See people. Through their purpose and through their vision.

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You know, and when I look at people. Post summit. You know, I'm looking at them through what is their purpose and what is their vision and how can I help them.

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With whatever their purpose is.

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You know, I.

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And that. Go ahead.

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Yeah, I just wanna come back to to trigger and what you also describe is So you identified the anger upset.

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You noticed it. You then, which is all another one of our distinctions to noticing and noticing is the ability to see yourself outside of yourself.

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In that.

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To identify. What you're saying, doing and how you're being. And then you tracked it.

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And you tracked it back to yourself. So that you can figure out what is that thing. Pointing to.

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So you tracked it to that emotion that hurt that place that was discovered or buried. And you brought it to the forefront.

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And, and then at that point in time you were able to transform it and create another conversation about that.

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Thing which had upset you originally so all of those things are part of how we the fuse.

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Triggers And so that trigger is a process that we use inside the International Black Summit. And Clara, you've defined it perfectly because at the end of it, it's always pointing to some commitment.

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That we have. Or that's not being fulfilled and we get the track it and and acknowledge it and then once we can do that then we can change that whole.

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Yeah.

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Energy that we bring to that particular conversation and certainly with people and things that that trigger.

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Yeah.

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You know, it It's. It's interesting because just looking at that process that you that you both just described you giving the example.

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Clara and then Glenn really talking about what that process is in the in the summit. And for me, just wanted to take why do we engage in those kinds of.

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Questions. Why do we have those distinctions in the summit? And, and it's You know, if you look at what's available through the summit, what we say is available through the summit.

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If you go to the website and you look at about us, it'll say have a section saying what's available through the summit.

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And one of the things we say is available. Is an exploration. Of questions and issues which empower participants to realize their vision for the black community and the world.

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And so what what you were just demonstrating. Was something that was getting in the way. Of you realizing your vision.

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Yes.

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For yourself, the black community, and the world. It was something that was a block or a barrier or a, you know, a burden, something that was a challenge interrupting that.

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And so that's part of what the summit, interrupting that. And so that's part of what the summit makes available is being able to for us to be able to engage in this conversation in a way that then gives us.

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Greater capacity to fulfill on our vision for the black community and the world for ourselves and our families, you know, all of that.

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And so it's not, it's not therapy. You know, so somebody might hear that conversation and think, yeah, you know, this is some kind of thing.

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No, it's not therapy. It is, it's a, it's an exploration.

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In order for us to be able to fulfill on our visions.

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Hmm.

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I like that word, interruption. Cause I think it's the interruptions in life that keep us from our purpose.

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It keeps us from. Doing the things that we're destined to do. And, and it could be as simple as, you know.

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Negative self-talk. The in the know out their conversation when people kept saying they list and they that and they they they they like.

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Whose day? And what are you doing? And you know what are you committed to you know for yourself you know to get to what you want for you and for your family and you know.

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Yeah, so I think the interruptions and people, the unconsciousness. You know, the unconsciousness if if If we can be more conscious and more intentional.

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If I can be more. Anxious and intentional. Then I can do more. I can get more done.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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Absolutely. And for me, When I am, although this is your interview, I'm going to talk.

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Sure, please.

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For me and and it's 1 of the things that I love about the summit space. You know, we are in this interview with you, Clara.

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But the summit conversation is the summit conversation and it goes and it's it's an inclusive conversation.

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There's space for all of us. And their space for whatever is arising in the moment. And we give space and we allow for what's arising in the moment.

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And, and so as you were sharing that. And being using the tools in a way that enables you to be more productive because you're more conscious and you to be more productive because you're more conscious and intentional.

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And one of the things for me that I find is Yes, it may enable me to be more productive, but that's not always what I'm focusing on.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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And I don't even know that I would be fulfilled necessarily if it makes me more productive because that's not my personal Think but what it does for me being conscious as intentional is it it has me gain access to a greater level of peace.

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For me, a greater level of peace. A greater level of self-understanding, a greater capacity to just be.

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In life. Fully accepting of my deepest authenticity. And so that's what that level of intention and consciousness makes available for me.

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You know, so. So I appreciate this conversation and that it is a conversation. Because it really is steeped in the power of language.

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And the power of listening. And one of the things that I've gotten from the summit is listening people.

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Listening to their conversation listening to what comes out of people's mouths. Will clarify and tell you everything about why.

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Who they are? And why their life has been created the way it's being created. And if they want their life to be created differently?

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Then they will need to have some different conversations.

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The

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And, and so for me, I just, I, have a lot of appreciation for the value that that.

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Indeed.

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Provides myself and of others. So you left, you left a full time job and moved into real estate to become self employed.

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Do you want to talk about that a little bit?

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Sure. Yeah. I.

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Was that 20?

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No, that was 1996. Yeah, that was a while ago. And I haven't gotten back.

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That's the really crazy part. Yeah, 1996. And I started.

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In real estate then. And I had a couple of twists when I got married.

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Reloaded to another state. And for a while I was, I was going back and forth.

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Like I'd fly. To California. Stay for a month or so. Do business fly back.

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You know, and Edwin said, okay, you're stratling the fence. Where you gonna be?

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Mmm.

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What's going to? I was like, oh. Okay. So then I started focusing on building.

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My real estate business in New Jersey. But my thought at the time was I can make more money in California.

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Because the cost of homes are higher. Right. So. Do a couple of deals there to 10 deals that I'd have to do in New Jersey, right?

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So I was like, okay. So, you know, I started focusing on. Here and then was really in of the space of being a wife and being a mother.

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To a child that I did not bear out of my loins.

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And that was a whole nother experience. And. Yeah, and then having it transition.

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At such an unexpected time. I just. Didn't expect that, you know, at my mother in love is 99 this year.

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She'll be a hundred this year on her birthday his father lived to be. Was he 90 when he passed?

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He was older when he passed. I, I mean, like this man has long jeans. I expected him to outlive me.

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So. That set me back. For.

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A minute because I wasn't expecting. Him to pass and I kind of took myself off the grid for a while but during that time you know, I kept hearing him say, you know, you gotta keep going.

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You gotta do what you're gonna do. So I got my broker's license. In that time period.

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And things just started lining up. You know. The 1st company.

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That I was actually looking for a building and I went to a conference and I met this gentleman and You know, we talked and he had the building.

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Everything. The structure was always already set up. I hadn't thought about doing a franchise.

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But that's basically what it was. And went into that structure and saw I had responsibility for the entire state.

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So it came with agents, it came with everything was there, which was great because it was a good way to learn.

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And then I thought this is not why I became a broker. Like I had a very clear vision about what I wanted to do and how I wanted to practice and who I wanted to be and who I wanted to serve and how I wanted to serve them.

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And so I left that company and started my own company in 2,016. Which is lines for your realty and, It's been phenomenal.

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It's been great. I have a great team of agents who work with me. And we help people, you know, it's really about.

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Helping people within the communities that we serve and being an advocate for them. In moving to.

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The dream of homeownership and not just for having a house with 4 walls, but for wealth building and for people to understand.

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That property ownership is the way to build wealth. In the world. So you need to own a piece of dirt somewhere.

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Somewhere because the the value of that dirt over time is going to increase more than what you would make on your job.

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The only thing that rises higher than that is the stocks if you invest wisely, you know, and everybody doesn't have that skill.

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But how you know property doesn't require any particular skill other than You need to get a piece of dirt.

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With some property on it and let time happen and if you let time happen that property will appreciate in value and for those people who purchase pre-COVID.

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They experienced it in a short period of time. Like within 3 years, their property values have doubled and tripled in that time frame.

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So building wealth. It's really important. It's important in all communities, but it's especially important.

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In our community because we as people of color, we have at, at our fingertips.

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Trillions and trillions of dollars that we give away. And we give it away in things that are not tangible and that don't create legacy.

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Right. And so to have. A legacy that is sustainable. You need something that you can give to.

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The next generation. You can't give them. You know, your Jordans. You know, or your teams or your because you know the value of those things they stay for a period of time but you can't you know It doesn't have the the It doesn't generate the type of wealth that you would get through.

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Through real estate and so that's why real estate is so near and dear to my heart and I really want to convey that message to people.

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So I always tell people buy what you can afford. Don't even care if you don't want to live it.

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A particular neighborhood that they may be able to afford. Doesn't matter that someone, everyone is going to live somewhere.

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Someone is going to live in that property. So. Buy what you can afford and over time you can leverage that to get something else that may be more what you want.

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Where you gonna live or even an initially you may be able to afford to buy what? You know, in the neighborhood that you would like to be in, but by whatever you can afford and leverage that wealth over time.

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And it allows you to do things. I always think of homes as the bank. You know, because once she built equity and equity basically, she bought it here and now it's here.

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Or the value is here. But you only have this so that space in between is your equity. And you can use that equity over and over again.

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And as it keeps going up, you can continue to use that equity to do other things and you still have the space.

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Right. So it's a really. Helping people to see not only their financial wealth, but also their intellectual wealth, you know, I'm an avid reader.

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I'm an avid training person. I'm always taking classes, always learning new things. But those are the things that, I kind of focus on or have been focusing on in life and and educating other people.

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To. Have the necessary skills and get the information that they need so that they can build wealth as well.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Thank you for that. Clara. I have a question. Because in that you said at 1 point that you had a clear vision.

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So you were working in a particular context and you said this was great to learn, but it wasn't.

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Fulfilling on the clear vision that you had. And so my question for you is can you talk a little bit about the distinction and process that we call clearing?

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In the International Black Summit. The process and distinction clearing and using that. To get clear on your vision so that you can fulfill on it.

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Yeah, clearing is when I take an opportunity to look at what I'm doing. And to see if it's in alignment with what I really want.

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And so. If I am. In a situation that is not bringing me joy.

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1st for me, I have to identify what is it that brings me joy. Right. So. When I was working for.

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Someone else in real estate and when I was working inside of the franchise. In real estate.

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My values. And what I want it for me weren't being addressed. So what did I identify?

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I identified. I like the freedom to do things the way I like to do that. So when you get into a corporate structure, you follow the corporate structure.

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So if you work for McDonald's, there is a manual. There is the McDonald's way, there is the McDonald's hat, there's the M almost uniform, you know, there is Everything that says McDonald's.

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Well, my brand is Lions View. So Lions view has a particular brand. That's my vision, you know.

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It's I call it the Lions view lifestyle, right? So, Lance, your lifestyle is when you look at what's available.

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And the potential for your life, you know, whether that's financially, whether intellectually, spiritually, food, whatever.

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And you see the possibility. And you go for what is the best thing for you. Right? You can see it.

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No.

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Yeah.

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It's a lion's view. That's the name of the company. You know how it sits at the top of the mountain although my name is felt with the Y but the lion is the king of the jungle and it sits at the top of the mountain and it overlooks the kingdom, right?

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But it's the lion's kingdom. So your kingdom could be whatever you imagine it to be.

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Okay.

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Hmm.

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It's your view. Right? Your lifestyle and you get to have it. And so that's my vision for my company.

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You know, that's the vision for my science. I want to give you what you want, right?

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Hmm

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Whatever. Whatever's in your view, you know, whatever you can dream. However big you can dream I want to help you get to that to that place.

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Yeah. So in and clearing myself for me. First, st I gotta be clear on what it is that I want for me and realize that this ain't that.

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Because when this ain't that there's upset there's you know There's confusion, there's.

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All kinds of different emotions that say I am out of alignment. I want to be here, but I'm here.

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So what is it that I need to do to get to here? And what is it that's interrupting?

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Or getting in the way. Of me getting here. And as I move things out of the way. I'm like, oh, I did this.

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Well, that didn't do it. Clear that out of the way. I did this, that didn't do it.

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Clear that out of the way. Dip this that into it, clear that out of the way or it may just be a conversation, you know, and as I keep clearing things, I'm getting closer and closer to being in alignment with my vision.

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And then I can forward. Yeah.

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Very nice. Very nice. I might do this international black summit thing. That sounds

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Yeah.

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Indeed.

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What would you say to someone? Who? Is kind of interested but not sure about the international blacks.

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I mean what would you say to them to to have them get what's available?

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Hmm. I would say. If you

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If you are

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Really honest with yourself. That you want to. Realize your purpose in life. Then this is a space that you want to check out.

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Because inside of the space. You'll get some tools. That will help you. To

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Deal with the interruptions in a way that's productive and also that will help you too eliminate the things that are blocking you.

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From moving forward. And it'll also if you're very, if you're already very intentional about who you are and and what you're up to, it'll put you in a community of people.

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Who are doing some really phenomenal things. You know, it will expand your worldview, you know, your personal view.

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So if your world is like this. It'll make your world like this. You know, it'll expand your worldview.

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As well, if those are things that.

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You know, speak to you, then it's the place for you. Yeah. It's a great place for you.

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Great, thank you.

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You want

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Thank you. Clara. So, I want to go back to the question that I had asked, but didn't have you answer and then I think we can possibly go to the last question of the.

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Okay.

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Section depending on what depending on what Glenn thinks. So. I had asked you about facilitating the prerequisite.

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Hmm.

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You know, and what's what was your experience doing that and what do you see available? We have prerequisite coming up on June, the 20 second, 2024.

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And And so what do you see when you when you talk about facilitating the prerequisite what's available by participating in the prerequisite, all of that.

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Wow. The prerequisite is a, it's kind of a taste of the summit.

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It introduces you to the distinctions of the summit and so you get the language because it's all it's a whole new language when you enter the room.

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And so the prerequisite will introduce you to the distinctions in a way that when you get into.

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The annual event. You'll be more comfortable. And you will have you've had an opportunity to put those distinctions into practice.

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Before you get into the room. Yeah.

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That's it. That's it in a nutshell. Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Thank you. In a nutshell, in a nutshell. Thank you. Blynn, do you have any questions before we go to the last one?

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No, I think, I think let's go to the last one. Let's go to the last one.

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Okay, last question, Clara.

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Yes.

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1st of all, before I, one other thing I wanted to say, I always appreciated. U and Edwin.

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As a couple in the summit. You know, his nickname being Black Love. And you as a couple being a demonstration of black love having met through the international black something and then having a presence in the International Black Summit as one of the because you guys aren't the only ones who came up.

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Not the only couple. The summit. But you know, being a demonstration of black love in the International Black Summit, I always appreciated you guys for that.

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So thank you for that.

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Thank you. And it's taken me a while to. To.

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Move on in life. So I'm finally at a space where I am open to a new relationship.

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So if there is a new black love out there, I'm here. I'm waiting and I'm ready.

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Okay.

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Oh. Nice.

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Yeah, wait for him to find me. Yeah. Okay.

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So the last question, Clara.

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Yes.

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What are 3 wishes that you have for the world right now?

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That's a good question.

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Oh, I think one wish would be for everyone to

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Take on. Take responsibility.

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And when I say that,

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It's inside of that know out their conversation. I think we're responsible for where we are and what we've got.

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And I think that if each of us takes responsibility for the things that we want to see happen. More things would shift.

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More things would move forward. So my wish is that everyone. Take responsibility and whatever their purpose is.

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Right. Whatever that looks like for. For each of us that we. Step fully into it.

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Hmm.

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And, and that would shift the world. And that, that really stands inside the declaration. If, you know, each of us.

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Just does our part. The world will shift. Right.

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So that's 1 wish. The other wish I have is Kind of the flip dark side of that so the dark side of that would be it, I wish that people would.

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Experience if they could experience. The harm that they put on other people, then I don't think people would do it.

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Mmm, interesting.

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Hmm.

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So if If I go to shoot you. And instead the The bullet hits me. I would not be so apt.

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To shoot you because I know that you're not gonna get the harm it's gonna come to me.

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So it's it's a dark twist on. Responsibility, but I just want people to be conscious of the impact on.

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On what they do. To not only to themselves. But to the people around them and to the environment into the world.

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Hmm.

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Clear.

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And then the 3rd thing I'd wish.

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Hmm.

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I just wish that more people could experience joy and happiness authentically. Like it's not, it doesn't have to be a really deep thing.

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Like nobody can give it to you. It's just something that. You know, wake up in the morning, you're breathing, that's just joy and happiness, like.

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Just that more people can experience. True. Joy and happiness that they feel it for themselves, you know, just like the world's okay with me.

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Today is okay. It's a good day. I'm alive, I'm breathing. It's a good day.

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What is it that I'm supposed to be doing today? Yeah.

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For a Clara Lines Devon. It has been such a pleasure to have you here. To Kind of like break bread again, you know just to really reengage and, a real opportunity to discover some things that I didn't know about, even I've known you all these years, but for both of us really.

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And to really acknowledge you for the work that you're doing out in the world. Having people's lives transform, having them see.

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A vision for themselves that they may not, you know, may not see by themselves. So you encourage them, support them.

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And expand their looking such that they can actually see some things available to them and I think that that's such a noble thing to be able to do in the world.

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To support other people and And the other part is just that, you know, the love that you are for people.

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You know, you have so much, you just you know, basket full of love and just giving it out and you know I've always loved that about you and you know I just really want to thank you for being part of this conversation called the International Black Summit.

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And being a partner of mine all these years inside of this conversation. And just a just a brilliant brilliant person that that is in love with life.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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You know, so thank you. Jackie Grace?

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Dido.

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Thank you so much so much for being here, Clara. And honestly, we haven't seen each other in years and you look exactly the same.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm like, this is some serious black don't crack. I, you look fantastic.

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Absolutely.

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Oh, so thank you everyone. I think we're gonna complete. So thank you everyone for being with us tonight.

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With this interview with Clara Lyons Devon, if you're interested in finding out about the International Black Summit, check us out anytime.

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Great. Good night.

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Good